Encl: (2) to COMDTINST 1610.1
DISCUSSION QUESTIONS
ANS These initiations are command sponsored and attended by command leaders who are totally
responsible for ensuring that the initiations do not include any degradation of character, sexual
overtones, bodily harm or undue harassment. This seagoing tradition is also voluntary for the
initiatee, international in character, and of long standing duration. At the conclusion of the
initiation, a ceremony is held and certificates presented to those who were initiated.
Q4 Events like "tacking on crows" and throwing members over the side on promotion are Service
traditions and are relatively harmless. Why not allow them?
ANS These types of events were banned because of their impromptu and unsupervised nature.
They are not command sponsored or attended by command leadership. While often conducted
under the pretext of fun or enjoyment, they frequently result in debasement of personal dignity or
physical injury to a Service member.
Q5 If someone volunteers to submit to an initiation like "tacking on crows," is it still a violation of
the hazing policy?
ANS Yes! The most likely reason for voluntarily submitting to this type of initiation is fear of
rejection or ridicule by peers. Whatever the reason, volunteering for physical abuse is like waiving
the right to be a human being. Furthermore, if one member of a command voluntarily submits to
this type of initiation, other members of the command might feel compelled to "volunteer".
Q6 Don't unit initiations serve a positive purpose by allowing someone new to be accepted as a
team member?
ANS The rite of passage is important to unit morale and "Esprit De Corps." However, there are
constructive ways of accomplishing this. Sporting events and job related challenges are examples
of rites of passage that do not subject our personnel to ridicule or possible injury.
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